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Takehiro Ueyama
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Finis: What countries have you performed in?
Take: Brazil, Chile, Russia, China, Indonesia, Thailand, Singapore, New
Zealand, India, France, England, Scotland, Italy, Spain, Sweden,
Denmark, Norway, Switzerland, Portugal, and Germany.
Finis: You're a lucky guy!
Take: Yes, I was so fortunate to be able to witness so many different
life styles, and meet so many new people everywhere we went. It was
a tremendous education. By the way, I think I've danced in almost
every state in America.
Finis: Were there any special places that stand out in your memory?
Take: We had a one week season at The Paris Opera, and that was very
special, being in France, dancing for that enthusiastic audience
that kept on applauding, plus the great food and wine. Hawaii was so
beautiful, being right on the beach. The audience wasn't especially
good, but the beaches and food were great. The same with Rio de
Janeiro. So beautiful. I'd say the best tour was India, because I
always wanted to go there. It's such a totally different experience.
There is so much poverty, and the Caste system, which made me
realize how lucky I am, to be able to live comfortably and have the
freedom to do what I want to do. India is such an amazing
experience.
Finis: I was there for seven weeks with The Joffrey Ballet, before you
were born, in 1962, and the images of India are still vivid.
Take: India has to be the highlight of all my touring. I can never
forget it!
Finis: Did you ever have any times during your performing when you
didn't feel good about what you were doing?
Take: Sometimes it's hard to dance the same piece over and over again,
but I never get upset or "down." I think I've always been positive,
even though it becomes difficult to stay "fresh." I think I can do
some of the pieces with my eyes closed, meaning I've done them so
many times. That's the hardest part, keeping yourself fresh.
Finis: What do you do to refresh yourself?
Take: I look for new inspiration. I visit museums, listen to music,
read, see films and live performances. That usually inspires me and
gets me back up, ready to start again.
Finis: I also should let the reader know that dancing Taylor means very
quick, muscular, weighted movement, as well as lots of extremely
difficult partnering. Tell us about this.
Take: Paul doesn't like us to feel comfortable. He pushes the envelope,
always asking us to go to extremes. He wants us to use muscles, to
feel the use of them. We are constantly spiraling, and being
reminded that movement comes from your back. "Use your back, and
drop your weight" - that's what Paul always says.
Finis: He also wants you to twist your jumps, and move quickly.
Take: It's very fast! Making big explosive movements, and then doing
something very small and quick.
Finis: What about the partnering?
Take: It's very difficult, because sometimes a woman is held up and
never touches the floor for several minutes. A lot of choreography
was done at the time when Paul had extremely tall and well-built men
and very small and petite women. Nowadays, the sizes are less
extreme, and so the weight load is very different.
Finis: The look of the Taylor men is very muscled.
Take: Yes, you have to protect your body while doing this work.
Finis: So, do you go to the gym?
Take: Some of the dancers do, I don't. I swim. Everyone has different
bodies, different muscles, so we each have our own special exercises
that keep us in condition.
Finis: You all do such extremely athletic, almost violent movements.
What about injuries?
Take: I had so many injuries. I had a sprained ankle more than five
times! I've had back problems since I joined the Company. I have
tendonitis in the shoulder. My pelvis isn't square any more.
Finis: Is this pretty much the same case for the other dancers as well?
Take: Yes, it seems that almost every male dancer in our company has a
shoulder injury. One of the difficulties of our job is simply
maintaining your body. There doesn't seem to be time enough when
you're performing, rehearsing, traveling, and just living. 24 hours
goes by so quickly!
Finis: Is that why you are leaving the Company?
Take: No. In the last few years, I've been questioning what I've been
doing. As I mentioned earlier, it's difficult to keep doing what for
the most part is the same thing; the same dances. It's hard to stay
fresh. I feel a need to be my own boss, to create my own stuff.
Finis: So you want to choreograph and have a company?
Take: Yes, I want to choreograph. I don't know about a company. But
I've been choreographing for the past two years, and I love it. I'm
trying to find my own voice, and that has the most meaning for me
right now. It makes me very, very happy. Discovering my own voice
makes me feel alive.
Finis: That's what everyone wants!
Take: It's very challenging, too. All the responsibility is mine.
Finis: Do you have lots of ideas?
Take: I feel like I'm a pregnant woman.
Finis: Well then you shouldn't have any trouble. It's amazing how many
choreographers don't seem to have a single original idea.
Take: The ideas want to come out right away. Since I've decided to
choreograph, I now watch dance very differently. I don't really look
at steps any more. Now I see the negative space, the whole stage
picture. Why is that dancer over there? What color do I see? I've
never painted, but it feels like that's what I'm doing. I even walk
down the street differently; I'm always observing how people behave,
and making mental notes. These days, I'm much more interested in
nature, and investigating my ancestry and heritage. When I'm in
Japan, I always visit the Rock Garden in Kyoto, which is very
simple, very quiet, and very powerful. It is very Japanese, and very
meaningful to me.
Finis: What have you learned from Paul?
Take: I've learned a lot. I watch Paul's eyes all the time. His eyes
are very special. He's a "watcher." He's always observing what's
going on around him. He's always looking and learning. There is
always a reason, or a relationship, between the dancers, the music,
and the stage space. What I don't like about a lot of new
choreography is that it's so predictable; you can see a dancer
preparing to do something. Sometimes it looks like it's only about
steps. Each dancer is just doing his own thing. What I like about
Paul is that it's so unpredictable; you don't know what's coming. I
watch Balanchine, and you don't know what's coming next. That's what
I like, dance that is full of surprises. Also it's very human; it
can go straight to your heart. And, in the end, it can make you feel
so good.
Finis: The first time I saw Sunset, and one of the soldiers, on his
knee, gently put the woman's skirt to his face, the tears started
coming. Paul Taylor is the master of gesture. He knows the human
condition.
Take: He always says, "simple is best." You know, Paul sometimes
injures himself while choreographing. He gets so involved! I think
it's great - not that he gets injured, but that he throws himself
into the moment - almost like kids playing, they believe in what
they're doing. I think that Paul does the same thing; he's not
trying to impress anyone, he's just doing something he honestly
believes in and wants to do.
The first piece that Paul created on me was Eventide, and that
was a totally new experience. It wasn't simply dancing, or simply
acting. Actually, it involved lots of walking. I had never had had
such an experience. It almost made me cry. It touched on parts of my
own life. Paul made even the simplest actions so emotionally
powerful. Of course, the music, by Vaughan Williams gave me
Goosebumps all the time. You know, Paul has been called a genius
many times, but working him on that piece confirmed it for me. The
past eight years with Paul have changed my life. It's been a totally
amazing experience.
Finis: You're leaving the Company at the end of the year. What are your
plans?
Take: I'm going to choreograph, and try to teach in Japan. I want to
share everything I've learned with young dancers. And, I'm still
going to dance, my own work, when I'm ready.
Finis: We'll be waiting - I'm sure you'll have lots of wonderful
surprises for us. Thanks, Take!